I was honored to be a guest on the Making Our Way podcast a few weeks ago. In this conversation, we discussed the hard stuff and the deep and meaningful stuff. I enjoyed talking with Marissa Penrod: a parent, activist, and friend.

Apple Podcasts:

https://tinyurl.com/b6nn6e2k

Spotify:

https://tinyurl.com/mtjxdhnf

Google Podcasts:

https://tinyurl.com/429dn94c